Shelly as default package management interface

You have something that didn’t operate correctly on your end show me the entire command that you ran, because it most definitely displays pkgbuild, and everything else you were concerned about. So could you please provide me the command you ran?

Confirm a bug got introduced in the last release that prevent package build from showing in the cli will push a fix for that shortly. As for the rendering I’m curious what you are doing that caused that display as this is what it looks like.

I ran shelly moor-bin or something similar.

It requests an admin password before it even starts the search, then it opens the ‘two-pane’ tui interface larger than the terminal window.

I’m just using Kitty as usual, with fish shell.

I actually just pushed a few things for you, and it was never a TUI just eye candy. I had a simpler interface in the works for a few days and just shipped it last night.

Elevation is a design decision we made to keep the order of operations consistent for newer users, but I think I added exactly what you are looking for. When I get to my computer I’ll provide screenshots and a config file for you.

I like the design changes !

i wanted to know if its possible to have :

  • a possibity to open the package main website when we clic on one of those avalaible for update after a right clic on the tray icon. ( just like it does on the cachy tray)
  • open the package main website on those listed in the recommended section
  • biger titles (maybe centered, maybe with icons next to them, i dont know ) in the recommended section. And a lilte bit more spacing between every sub section.
  • the “verified” icon that we have on the flatpak available also when we search through “shelly search”
  • if the goal is to be the more userfriendly possible , i think that the recommended section shouble enable, and the main page by default. Any users whos not a newcomer will change that in a second in the settings or stay on octopi.

As you can read my english is not on point, so i was also wondering if one day you’ll open the project to the translaters through weblate for exemple.

thanks for the work

Hi to answer your questions:

  • Yes we are trying to get to that implementation.
  • I’ll share that feedback with Caroline as she is heading up the recommended page.
  • Same as above.
  • Shouldn’t be too hard and we can knock it out.
  • We plan to eventually turn it on as default. The goal going forward and this release is an example of our new release philosophy where we don’t intend to force changes as default till we can verify that it is completely stable and won’t introduce issues. As this was the first release that includes the recommended page we left the default as off.

I would like to see CachyOS reverse/full stop on Shelly vs Octopi. Last nights merge proves this app should not be taken seriously as a package manager. Also for those on Plasma/QT the gnome app is hideous but I tolerated it for testing purposes. Just my $.02

This feels like a “get out the popcorn” sort of comment…but includes nothing about the complaint and comes in the form of necroing a weeks-stagnant thread with offtopic accusations?

I don’t use shelly because I don’t really want a gui thingy, much less a rapidly developing one…but this is a weird and wild grenade to throw.

I was only giving a generic comment without imposing a popcorn moment. So please no popcorn. Feedback is feedback regardless of how light or involved the feedback is.

How are people supposed to know what “last night’s merge” is and why you think it’s a problem?

There simply isn’t anything that jumps out…and you’re acting like there is.

(Unless this is just you using a burner account to violate rule 10 in a way that you feel is somehow sneaky, of course. In which case we clearly can’t take you seriously, and maybe this isn’t the place for you)

I don’t use Shelly, but I’d like to know what problem you experienced, thanks.

I’m glad Shelly exists. While I still use Pamac for as long as possible—simply because it remains more intuitive and user-friendly—it seems inevitable that it will eventually be dropped entirely.
By the way… if you’re annoyed that Shelly uses GTK4, you can always use Octopi instead! :wink:

That’s not a good idea with cachy as this forum has shown several times.

Haha… I’m one of the incorrigibles :wink:

I promise not to ask for help if Pamac breaks my system.

I think this is rather too high a price for such a low quality comment.

If you have no facts to back up the claim, then there’s no point in making it…

I’m not saying that I agree, or disagree, but really - what a waste of time that was!

Why, are you simply predjudiced in some way against opening a terminal and doing it properly?

More than any other distribution, the curse of Cachy is the Windows style ‘MUST have GUI, Must do everything with CLICK CLICK CLICK and no keyboard’.

Hey, let them do what they want, right? They promised “not to ask for help if Pamac breaks my system” so if they like, they can do whatever floats their boat. Linux and all that :grin:

I use the shell as little as possible. While I do use a few shell commands—not without knowing what they do—I find it more convenient to use a GUI as often as possible. Furthermore, I support some acquaintances who are less tech-savvy, and I’ve set up their CachyOS or Manjaro systems exactly the same way I do mine. I’m truly grateful for any advice you might have, but as far as Pamac is concerned, I’m willing to accept the potential risks precisely because it’s worked for me for years.

Okay, just out of curiosity: what does pamac better that a blend of cachy-update, pacman, paru, and maclean couldn’t handle?

I’ll stick my neck out and say it was the inclusion of a political message in Shelly. I really wish developers would keep their politics out of their code, but it’s been around for a long time in one form or other, just look at the vim landing page, and ultimately it’s the developers choice to put it there or not. However, It can make their product look just like a vehicle for their politics, IMHO, which is not a good look.

But now I’m in danger of violating rule 4, so I’ll say no more. I guess there is some cognitive dissonance in cachy wanting to avoid political discussions in the forums (a good thing, I think), and having, as a default, a package which displays political messages.