Hello, cachyos was working perfectly 1 week ago, after i did some updates it is taking such a long time to boot, before it was 4-5 seconds, now it is taking 1-3 minutes.
And i just had an instance of after 10 minutes booted the GPU/System i dunno just crashed and i got a black screen and could not do anything.
I tried to read the
sudo dmesg
Here is the output for my
sudo cachyos-bugreport.sh
❯ systemd-analyze critical-chain
The time when unit became active or started is printed after the "@" character.
The time the unit took to start is printed after the "+" character.
graphical.target @1min 13.529s
└─multi-user.target @1min 13.529s
└─docker.service @1min 12.367s +1.162s
└─network-online.target @1min 12.366s
└─NetworkManager-wait-online.service @1min 6.366s +5.999s
└─NetworkManager.service @1min 6.041s +323ms
└─basic.target @1min 6.040s
└─dbus-broker.service @1min 6.021s +17ms
└─dbus.socket @1min 6.007s
└─sysinit.target @1min 6.006s
└─systemd-resolved.service @1min 5.954s +51ms
└─run-credentials-systemd\x2dresolved.service.mount @1min 5.969s
Please lat me know if there is missing info or if i need to provide more details or logs.
Seems like every boot journald tries to move the log file out of the way:
File /run/log/journal/781556cc27f54311af2f9671f579c7bd/system.journal corrupted or uncleanly shut down, renaming and replacing.
Here it’s freshly created:
Runtime Journal (/run/log/journal/781556cc27f54311af2f9671f579c7bd) is 16M, max 1.5G, 1.5G free.
And here it corrupts again, in the same boot:
Received client request to flush runtime journal.
File /var/log/journal/781556cc27f54311af2f9671f579c7bd/system.journal corrupted or uncleanly shut down, renaming and replacing.
So I wonder what’s going on there.
Could you check the filesystem?
You could also try to remove all logs - make sure you do not need those
I also ran a sudo cachyos-bugreport.sh and systemd-analyze critical-chain and this is what I got for them.
The time when unit became active or started is printed after the "@" character.
The time the unit took to start is printed after the "+" character.
graphical.target @2.876s
└─multi-user.target @2.875s
└─plymouth-quit.service @2.850s +24ms
└─systemd-user-sessions.service @2.832s +16ms
└─network.target @2.830s
└─wpa_supplicant.service @2.809s +20ms
└─basic.target @2.363s
└─dbus-broker.service @2.332s +29ms
└─dbus.socket @2.329s
└─sysinit.target @2.328s
└─systemd-resolved.service @1.387s +941ms
└─run-credentials-systemd\x2dresolved.service.mount @2.272s
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Hey @jonstump my problem was related to the USB and maybe the BIOS version, after i updated my BIOS and removed a USB HUB from my PC the boot time is as fast as before
Updating the bios has no change. Still a 3+ min boot time.
I don’t have anything that I can remove from my setup usb wise.
I see my motherboard’s splash screen sometimes 3+ times while CachyOS is trying to boot. Again this is not typical behavior for my computer with any other linux distro. I’m very confused by this as well.
You are using the linux-cachyos-deckify kernel, which, according to CachyOS Kernel is geared towards the Steam Deck. Do you have one of those? Maybe try using the default kernel linux-cachyos.
Make sure you did not install the CachyOS Handheld Edition on a normal computer
Service startup-times look good, so I’d wage a guess it’s not related to a systemd service stalling
The journalling service has problems but seems to catch himself later on:
[ 78.130947] systemd-journald[428]: File /var/log/journal/b6c81b801b9f42f6aed127ae7cd3ae67/system.journal corrupted or uncleanly shut down, renaming and replacing.
Steam helper is issuing a command which is not understood by your CPU:
Maybe an v4 or otherwise incompatible package? Your AMD Ryzen 5 5600G is Zen 3. Maybe just sloppy programming from their side. Maybe the file is corrupted. Maybe just unrelated but it’s probably crashing.
There is another process segfaulting:
[ 1814.697888] vesktop[29502]: segfault at 1 ip 000073997ede6dcc sp 00007ffdd3d2b000 error 6 in gameoverlayrenderer.so[19dcc,73997ede3000+33000] likely on CPU 0 (core 0, socket 0)
Again something from Steam.
USB device 1-9 has some problems, I could not figure out what it is:
[ 17.659372] usb 1-9: device descriptor read/64, error -110
[ 17.733408] hid-generic 0003:2DC8:5201.0007: input,hidraw5: USB HID v1.11 Keyboard [8BitDo 8BitDo Retro Keyboard Receiver] on usb-0000:09:00.3-1.3/input2
[ 17.735628] elecom 0003:056E:010C.0004: Fixing up Elecom mouse button count
[ 17.735745] input: ELECOM TrackBall Mouse HUGE TrackBall as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:08.1/0000:09:00.3/usb3/3-1/3-1.1/3-1.1:1.0/0003:056E:010C.0004/input/input9
[ 17.786421] elecom 0003:056E:010C.0004: input,hiddev99,hidraw6: USB HID v1.11 Mouse [ELECOM TrackBall Mouse HUGE TrackBall] on usb-0000:09:00.3-1.1/input0
[ 33.531371] usb 1-9: device descriptor read/64, error -110
[ 33.813325] usb 1-9: new full-speed USB device number 5 using xhci_hcd
[ 49.403369] usb 1-9: device descriptor read/64, error -110
[ 65.275369] usb 1-9: device descriptor read/64, error -110
[ 65.384356] usb usb1-port9: attempt power cycle
[ 65.825321] usb 1-9: new full-speed USB device number 6 using xhci_hcd
[ 70.651598] usb 1-9: Device not responding to setup address.
[ 70.881000] usb 1-9: Device not responding to setup address.
[ 71.086322] usb 1-9: device not accepting address 6, error -71
[ 71.086410] usb 1-9: WARN: invalid context state for evaluate context command.
[ 71.261322] usb 1-9: new full-speed USB device number 7 using xhci_hcd
[ 76.087717] usb 1-9: Device not responding to setup address.
[ 76.320998] usb 1-9: Device not responding to setup address.
[ 76.526322] usb 1-9: device not accepting address 7, error -71
[ 76.526409] usb 1-9: WARN: invalid context state for evaluate context command.
I want my gaming PC to boot into game mode and I did not see an option to do that with the standard desktop version of catchyos. Hence why I installed the handheld version. Is there no way I can install cachyos and have it behave like a steam deck?
Which is intended for handhelds, and explicitly marked as experimental and it is explicitly stated you can expect broken things: Readme.
It also has firmware and quirks for several handheld gaming consoles.
This edition is not intended for desktops and not tailored for them.
It is for handhelds…
What do I mean by have my computer act like a steam deck?
I’m a little surprised by this question. A Steam Deck boots into Valve’s game mode, that is not a desktop environment. That is what I want. My gaming pc is first and foremost for gaming. I don’t want to boot into a DE and then boot into big picture mode. I want to boot my PC and boot straight into gaming mode just like the steam deck. I want it to recognize the keyboard shorts, for gaming mode just like a steam deck. Which CachyOS also doesn’t do.
I just want my gaming PC to be a giant steam deck.
Okay, I understand but I am sorry to say I can not help you any further.
I do not game on a console and have never even had a gaming console, which includes the Steam Deck so I have no clue how their UI or UX is supposed to look like.
My world of gaming consists of a lightweight desktop environment (not even gamemode or gamescope), wine (not even proton) and that’s it.
With that I fire up Star Citizen, Elite Dangerous, Stalker, Cyberpunk and probably most other heavy and modern stuff.
I have no Steam account (GOG and direct customer only) so I’m out of this, too.
It looks like what you want is exactly what I try my hardest to avoid.
No hard feelings, ask me anything you want, I’m just out of my expertise.
One small, last addition:
I don’t know if you read my analysis above at all, but your CPU does not seem to even be compatible at the hardware level with the Handheld image and its repositories, as processes segfault and execute illegal opcodes on it.
I briefly tried the normal desktop version. I immediately swapped when I saw no way to default to game mode with it. It also took 3+ minutes to start. It can’t recall everything it hung on, but it hangs on a lot of stuff during boot.
I guess what I’m getting out of this is that CachyOS is not the distro that it seems to be when I read about it, which was “basically bazzite but arch and mutable”
Well, every distro has its target audience.
There is more than one set of trousers in the world
Everyone finds their style.
That does not mean CachyOS is not what it says it is - it is different from what you thought it is for you.
I wanted to mention that I didn’t mean to imply that CachyOS itself describes it this way, this was more the vibe I got from reading and watching stuff about CachyOS when doing research. In fact…
Here’s an example in this very thread. Which basically matches what I’ve consumed about other’s experiences with CachyOS. However I wouldn’t describe it as such and I agree that CachyOS doesn’t either from what I’ve actually seen on their website and now experienced.
I’d describe CachyOS as Arch but with packages a little bit more performant because of the platform optimizations.
Not a gaming distro, not a convenience distro, not an exactly user friendly distro.
It is Arch. Arch is hard (1). With Arch you need to know your way around.
The documentation is awesome and detailed to understand how stuff works.
Arch is not a distribution off the shelf but a very modular, complex machine, where you put stuff together yourself. You break it, you keep it and you have to build it in the first place.
While CachyOS, and Arch, to an extend, have become much much more user-friendly and have gotten rid of many footguns and are more approachable than ever, this meme still holds true:
