Difference between proton-cachyos and proton-cachyos-native

So, that basically did the same (+1.5GB with -native and -slr being installed:

Full output of sudo pacman -Syu proton-cachyos-slr
:: Synchronizing package databases...
 cachyos-znver4 is up to date
 cachyos-core-znver4 is up to date
 cachyos-extra-znver4                       4.3 MiB  1405 KiB/s 00:03 [---------------------------------------] 100%
 cachyos                                  511.3 KiB   926 KiB/s 00:01 [---------------------------------------] 100%
 core                                     126.6 KiB   174 KiB/s 00:01 [---------------------------------------] 100%
 extra                                      8.3 MiB  1585 KiB/s 00:05 [---------------------------------------] 100%
 multilib is up to date
:: Starting full system upgrade...
:: Replace proton-cachyos with cachyos/proton-cachyos-native? [Y/n] y
:: Replace proton-cachyos with cachyos/proton-cachyos-slr? [Y/n] y
resolving dependencies...
looking for conflicting packages...

Package (84)                                     Old Version        New Version        Net Change    Download Size

cachyos-extra-znver4/aurorae                     6.7.0-1.1          6.7.1-1.1              0.00 MiB       0.16 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/bluedevil                   1:6.7.0-1.1        1:6.7.1-1.1            0.00 MiB       0.67 MiB
extra/bpf                                        7.0.12-1           7.1.1-1                0.03 MiB       1.93 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/breeze                      6.7.0-1.1          6.7.1-1.1              0.00 MiB      40.13 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/breeze-cursors              6.7.0-1.1          6.7.1-1.1              0.00 MiB       1.24 MiB
extra/breeze-gtk                                 6.7.0-1            6.7.1-1                0.00 MiB       0.19 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/cabextract                  1.11-2.1           1.11-3.1               0.01 MiB       0.05 MiB
cachyos/cachyos-kernel-manager                   1.18.1-1           1.19.0-1               0.02 MiB       0.41 MiB
extra/cpupower                                   7.0.12-1           7.1.1-1                0.00 MiB       0.21 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/firefox                     152.0.1-1.1        152.0.2-1.1            0.04 MiB      83.77 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/haveged                     1.9.24-1.1         1.9.25-1.1             0.00 MiB       0.05 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/imagemagick                 7.1.2.25-1.1       7.1.2.26-1.1           0.01 MiB       9.54 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/kactivitymanagerd           6.7.0-1.1          6.7.1-1.1              0.00 MiB       0.21 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/kde-cli-tools               6.7.0-1.1          6.7.1-1.1              0.00 MiB       0.90 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/kde-gtk-config              6.7.0-1.1          6.7.1-1.1              0.00 MiB       0.09 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/kdecoration                 6.7.0-1.1          6.7.1-1.1              0.00 MiB       0.10 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/kdeplasma-addons            6.7.0-1.1          6.7.1-1.1              0.01 MiB       3.19 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/kglobalacceld               6.7.0-1.1          6.7.1-1.1              0.00 MiB       0.14 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/kinfocenter                 6.7.0-1.1          6.7.1-1.1              0.00 MiB       0.94 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/kmenuedit                   6.7.0-1.1          6.7.1-1.1              0.00 MiB       1.03 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/knighttime                  6.7.0-1.1          6.7.1-1.1              0.00 MiB       0.07 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/kpipewire                   6.7.0-1.1          6.7.1-1.1              0.00 MiB       0.20 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/kscreen                     6.7.0-1.1          6.7.1-1.1              0.00 MiB       1.87 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/kscreenlocker               6.7.0-1.1          6.7.1-1.1              0.00 MiB       0.27 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/ksystemstats                6.7.0-1.1          6.7.1-1.1              0.00 MiB       0.30 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/kwallet-pam                 6.7.0-1.1          6.7.1-1.1              0.00 MiB       0.01 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/kwayland                    6.7.0-1.1          6.7.1-1.1              0.00 MiB       0.25 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/kwin                        6.7.0-3.1          6.7.1-1.1              0.08 MiB      10.90 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/layer-shell-qt              6.7.0-1.1          6.7.1-1.1              0.00 MiB       0.04 MiB
multilib/lib32-libnsl                                               2.0.1-2                0.03 MiB       0.01 MiB
multilib/lib32-libtirpc                                             1.3.7-1                0.18 MiB       0.07 MiB
multilib/lib32-speexdsp                                             1.2.1-2                0.07 MiB       0.04 MiB
multilib/lib32-systemd                           260.2-1            261-1                  0.20 MiB       0.93 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/libass                      0.17.4-2.1         0.17.5-1.1            -0.01 MiB       0.15 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/libkscreen                  6.7.0-1.1          6.7.1-1.1              0.00 MiB       0.37 MiB
extra/libksysguard                               6.7.0-1            6.7.1-1                0.00 MiB       0.69 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/libldac                     2.0.2.3-3.1        2.0.2.5-1.1           -0.01 MiB       0.04 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/libplasma                   6.7.0-1.1          6.7.1-1.1              0.00 MiB       2.55 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/milou                       6.7.0-1.1          6.7.1-1.1              0.00 MiB       0.10 MiB
cachyos/mkinitcpio                               41-2               41-5                   0.00 MiB       0.07 MiB
extra/ocean-sound-theme                          6.7.0-1            6.7.1-1                0.00 MiB       1.93 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/opencv                      4.13.0-10.1        4.13.0-11.1            0.00 MiB      30.71 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/openexr                     3.4.13-1.1         3.4.13-2.1             0.00 MiB       1.29 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/openjph                     0.30.0-1.1         0.30.1-1.1             0.00 MiB       0.27 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/perl-dbi                    1.648-1.1          1.649-1.1              0.00 MiB       0.93 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/plasma-activities           6.7.0-1.1          6.7.1-1.1              0.00 MiB       0.13 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/plasma-activities-stats     6.7.0-1.1          6.7.1-1.1              0.00 MiB       0.10 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/plasma-browser-integration  6.7.0-1.1          6.7.1-1.1              0.00 MiB       0.19 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/plasma-desktop              6.7.0-1.1          6.7.1-1.1              0.01 MiB      18.31 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/plasma-firewall             6.7.0-1.1          6.7.1-1.1              0.00 MiB       0.51 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/plasma-integration          6.7.0-1.1          6.7.1-1.1              0.00 MiB       0.14 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/plasma-nm                   6.7.0-1.1          6.7.1-1.1              0.01 MiB       2.08 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/plasma-pa                   6.7.0-1.1          6.7.1-1.1              0.00 MiB       0.50 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/plasma-systemmonitor        6.7.0-1.1          6.7.1-1.1              0.00 MiB       0.54 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/plasma-thunderbolt          6.7.0-1.1          6.7.1-1.1              0.00 MiB       0.14 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/plasma-workspace            6.7.0-1.1          6.7.1-1.1              0.01 MiB      21.39 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/plasma5support              6.7.0-1.1          6.7.1-1.1              0.00 MiB       1.23 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/plymouth-kcm                6.7.0-1.1          6.7.1-1.1              0.00 MiB       0.08 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/polkit-kde-agent            6.7.0-1.1          6.7.1-1.1              0.00 MiB       0.07 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/powerdevil                  6.7.0-1.1          6.7.1-1.1              0.00 MiB       1.62 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/protobuf                    35.0-2.1           35.1-1.1               0.00 MiB       4.37 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/protobuf-c                  1.5.2-11.1         1.5.2-12.1             0.00 MiB       0.15 MiB
proton-cachyos                                   1:11.0.20260601-1                     -1518.67 MiB               
cachyos/proton-cachyos-native                                       1:11.0.20260602-3   1513.83 MiB     308.10 MiB
cachyos-znver4/python                            3.14.5-4           3.14.6-2               0.05 MiB      13.91 MiB
extra/python-grpcio                              1.81.0-1           1.81.1-1               0.00 MiB       3.65 MiB
extra/python-grpcio-tools                        1.81.0-1           1.81.1-1               0.00 MiB       0.15 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/python-numpy                2.4.6-1.1          2.5.0-1.1              1.13 MiB       7.90 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/python-protobuf             35.0-2.1           35.1-1.1               0.00 MiB       0.47 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/qqc2-breeze-style           6.7.0-1.1          6.7.1-1.1              0.00 MiB       0.45 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/sddm-kcm                    6.7.0-1.1          6.7.1-1.1              0.00 MiB       0.16 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/spectacle                   1:6.7.0-1.1        1:6.7.1-1.1            0.00 MiB       2.11 MiB
multilib/steam                                   1.0.0.85-7         1.0.0.86-1             0.08 MiB      19.43 MiB
multilib/steam-devices                           1.0.0.85-7         1.0.0.86-1             0.00 MiB       0.01 MiB
core/systemd                                     260.2-2            261-1                  2.02 MiB      10.37 MiB
core/systemd-libs                                260.2-2            261-1                  0.22 MiB       1.40 MiB
core/systemd-resolvconf                          260.2-2            261-1                  0.00 MiB       0.00 MiB
core/systemd-sysvcompat                          260.2-2            261-1                  0.00 MiB       0.01 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/systemsettings              6.7.0-1.1          6.7.1-1.1              0.00 MiB       0.37 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/xdg-desktop-portal-kde      6.7.0-1.1          6.7.1-1.1              0.00 MiB       0.68 MiB
extra/xkeyboard-config                           2.47-1             2.48-1                 0.01 MiB       0.87 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/xvidcore                    1.3.7-3.1          1.3.7-4.1              0.06 MiB       0.29 MiB
cachyos-extra-znver4/zbar                        0.23.93-5.1        0.23.93-6.1            0.02 MiB       0.30 MiB
cachyos/proton-cachyos-slr                                          1:11.0.20260602-3   1587.18 MiB     335.59 MiB

Total Download Size:    956.76 MiB
Total Installed Size:  4084.31 MiB
Net Upgrade Size:      1586.65 MiB

:: Proceed with installation? [Y/n] Y

resulting in this:

pacman -Qi proton-cachyos proton-cachyos-slr proton-cachyos-native
Installed From  : None
Name            : proton-cachyos-native
Version         : 1:11.0.20260602-3
Description     : A compatibility tool for Steam Play based on Wine and additional components, experimental branch
                  with extra CachyOS flavour (native build)
Architecture    : x86_64
URL             : https://github.com/CachyOS/proton-cachyos
Licenses        : custom
Groups          : None
Provides        : proton-cachyos  proton
Depends On      : attr  lib32-attr  cabextract  desktop-file-utils  fontconfig  lib32-fontconfig  flac  lib32-flac
                  freetype2  lib32-freetype2  libgcc  lib32-gcc-libs  gettext  lib32-gettext  glib2  lib32-glib2
                  glibc  lib32-glibc  libgudev  lib32-libgudev  libnsl  lib32-libnsl  libpcap  lib32-libpcap
                  libunwind  lib32-libunwind  libvpx  lib32-libvpx  libwebp  lib32-libwebp  libx11  lib32-libx11
                  libxcursor  lib32-libxcursor  libxext  lib32-libxext  libxkbcommon  lib32-libxkbcommon  libxml2
                  lib32-libxml2  libxi  lib32-libxi  libxrandr  lib32-libxrandr  pipewire  lib32-pipewire  python
                  python-six  speex  lib32-speex  speexdsp  lib32-speexdsp  atk  lib32-atk  cairo  lib32-cairo
                  curl  lib32-curl  dbus-glib  lib32-dbus-glib  freeglut  lib32-freeglut  gdk-pixbuf2
                  lib32-gdk-pixbuf2  glu  lib32-glu  lcms2  lib32-lcms2  libcaca  lib32-libcaca  libcanberra
                  lib32-libcanberra  dbus  lib32-dbus  libdrm  lib32-libdrm  libice  lib32-libice  libibus  libnm
                  lib32-libnm  libusb  lib32-libusb  libvdpau  lib32-libvdpau  libvorbis  lib32-libvorbis  libxft
                  lib32-libxft  libxmu  lib32-libxmu  libxrender  lib32-libxrender  libxtst  lib32-libxtst  nspr
                  lib32-nspr  openal  lib32-openal  pango  lib32-pango  sdl2  lib32-sdl2  sdl2_image
                  lib32-sdl2_image  sdl2_mixer  lib32-sdl2_mixer  sdl2_ttf  lib32-sdl2_ttf  pipewire
                  lib32-pipewire  librsvg  libsm  lib32-libsm  libtheora  lib32-libtheora  vulkan-driver
                  lib32-vulkan-driver  unzip  wayland  lib32-wayland  xz  lib32-xz
Optional Deps   : alsa-lib [installed]
                  lib32-alsa-lib [installed]
                  alsa-plugins [installed]
                  lib32-alsa-plugins [installed]
                  ffmpeg [installed]
                  gnutls [installed]
                  lib32-gnutls [installed]
                  gtk3 [installed]
                  lib32-gtk3
                  libgphoto2 [installed]
                  libpulse [installed]
                  lib32-libpulse [installed]
                  libva [installed]
                  lib32-libva [installed]
                  libxcomposite [installed]
                  lib32-libxcomposite
                  libxinerama [installed]
                  lib32-libxinerama [installed]
                  opencl-icd-loader [installed]
                  lib32-opencl-icd-loader
                  pcsclite [installed]
                  lib32-pcsclite
                  samba
                  steam [installed]
                  umu-launcher
                  unixodbc
                  v4l-utils [installed]
                  lib32-v4l-utils
                  vulkan-icd-loader [installed]
                  lib32-vulkan-icd-loader [installed]
                  NTSYNC-MODULE [installed]
Required By     : None
Optional For    : None
Conflicts With  : None
Replaces        : proton-cachyos
Installed Size  : 1513.83 MiB
Packager        : CachyOS <admin@cachyos.org>
Build Date      : Tue 23 Jun 2026 09:36:17 AM CEST
Install Date    : Wed 24 Jun 2026 09:28:37 PM CEST
Install Reason  : Explicitly installed
Install Script  : Yes
Validated By    : Signature

Installed From  : cachyos
Name            : proton-cachyos-slr
Version         : 1:11.0.20260602-3
Description     : A compatibility tool for Steam Play based on Wine and additional components, experimental branch
                  with extra CachyOS flavour (Steam Linux Runtime build)
Architecture    : x86_64
URL             : https://github.com/CachyOS/proton-cachyos
Licenses        : BSD  LGPL  zlib  MIT  MPL  custom
Groups          : None
Provides        : proton-cachyos  proton
Depends On      : bash  coreutils  curl  dbus  desktop-file-utils  diffutils  freetype2  gdk-pixbuf2  glibc
                  hicolor-icon-theme  libgcc  libxcrypt  libxcrypt-compat  libxkbcommon-x11  lsb-release  lsof  nss
                  python  ttf-font  usbutils  vulkan-driver  vulkan-icd-loader  xdg-user-dirs  xorg-xrandr  xz
                  lib32-alsa-plugins  lib32-fontconfig  lib32-gcc-libs  lib32-glibc  lib32-libgl
                  lib32-libgpg-error  lib32-libnm  lib32-libva  lib32-libx11  lib32-libxcrypt
                  lib32-libxcrypt-compat  lib32-libxinerama  lib32-libxss  lib32-nss  lib32-pipewire  lib32-systemd
                  lib32-vulkan-driver  lib32-vulkan-icd-loader
Optional Deps   : steam [installed]
                  umu-launcher
                  NTSYNC-MODULE [installed]
Required By     : None
Optional For    : None
Conflicts With  : None
Replaces        : proton-cachyos
Installed Size  : 1587.18 MiB
Packager        : CachyOS <admin@cachyos.org>
Build Date      : Tue 23 Jun 2026 09:32:49 AM CEST
Install Date    : Wed 24 Jun 2026 09:28:30 PM CEST
Install Reason  : Explicitly installed
Install Script  : Yes
Validated By    : Signature

Installed From  : None
Name            : proton-cachyos-native
Version         : 1:11.0.20260602-3
Description     : A compatibility tool for Steam Play based on Wine and additional components, experimental branch
                  with extra CachyOS flavour (native build)
Architecture    : x86_64
URL             : https://github.com/CachyOS/proton-cachyos
Licenses        : custom
Groups          : None
Provides        : proton-cachyos  proton
Depends On      : attr  lib32-attr  cabextract  desktop-file-utils  fontconfig  lib32-fontconfig  flac  lib32-flac
                  freetype2  lib32-freetype2  libgcc  lib32-gcc-libs  gettext  lib32-gettext  glib2  lib32-glib2
                  glibc  lib32-glibc  libgudev  lib32-libgudev  libnsl  lib32-libnsl  libpcap  lib32-libpcap
                  libunwind  lib32-libunwind  libvpx  lib32-libvpx  libwebp  lib32-libwebp  libx11  lib32-libx11
                  libxcursor  lib32-libxcursor  libxext  lib32-libxext  libxkbcommon  lib32-libxkbcommon  libxml2
                  lib32-libxml2  libxi  lib32-libxi  libxrandr  lib32-libxrandr  pipewire  lib32-pipewire  python
                  python-six  speex  lib32-speex  speexdsp  lib32-speexdsp  atk  lib32-atk  cairo  lib32-cairo
                  curl  lib32-curl  dbus-glib  lib32-dbus-glib  freeglut  lib32-freeglut  gdk-pixbuf2
                  lib32-gdk-pixbuf2  glu  lib32-glu  lcms2  lib32-lcms2  libcaca  lib32-libcaca  libcanberra
                  lib32-libcanberra  dbus  lib32-dbus  libdrm  lib32-libdrm  libice  lib32-libice  libibus  libnm
                  lib32-libnm  libusb  lib32-libusb  libvdpau  lib32-libvdpau  libvorbis  lib32-libvorbis  libxft
                  lib32-libxft  libxmu  lib32-libxmu  libxrender  lib32-libxrender  libxtst  lib32-libxtst  nspr
                  lib32-nspr  openal  lib32-openal  pango  lib32-pango  sdl2  lib32-sdl2  sdl2_image
                  lib32-sdl2_image  sdl2_mixer  lib32-sdl2_mixer  sdl2_ttf  lib32-sdl2_ttf  pipewire
                  lib32-pipewire  librsvg  libsm  lib32-libsm  libtheora  lib32-libtheora  vulkan-driver
                  lib32-vulkan-driver  unzip  wayland  lib32-wayland  xz  lib32-xz
Optional Deps   : alsa-lib [installed]
                  lib32-alsa-lib [installed]
                  alsa-plugins [installed]
                  lib32-alsa-plugins [installed]
                  ffmpeg [installed]
                  gnutls [installed]
                  lib32-gnutls [installed]
                  gtk3 [installed]
                  lib32-gtk3
                  libgphoto2 [installed]
                  libpulse [installed]
                  lib32-libpulse [installed]
                  libva [installed]
                  lib32-libva [installed]
                  libxcomposite [installed]
                  lib32-libxcomposite
                  libxinerama [installed]
                  lib32-libxinerama [installed]
                  opencl-icd-loader [installed]
                  lib32-opencl-icd-loader
                  pcsclite [installed]
                  lib32-pcsclite
                  samba
                  steam [installed]
                  umu-launcher
                  unixodbc
                  v4l-utils [installed]
                  lib32-v4l-utils
                  vulkan-icd-loader [installed]
                  lib32-vulkan-icd-loader [installed]
                  NTSYNC-MODULE [installed]
Required By     : None
Optional For    : None
Conflicts With  : None
Replaces        : proton-cachyos
Installed Size  : 1513.83 MiB
Packager        : CachyOS <admin@cachyos.org>
Build Date      : Tue 23 Jun 2026 09:36:17 AM CEST
Install Date    : Wed 24 Jun 2026 09:28:37 PM CEST
Install Reason  : Explicitly installed
Install Script  : Yes
Validated By    : Signature

So I guess I’ll grudgingly do pacman -Rns proton-cachyos-native, but I find that behavior a bit odd, tbh. Why recommend *-slr on the Wiki, but install both when replacing proton-cachyos? For completeness’ sake? I’d rather save those MB :slight_smile: