Orphans: Cannot get rid of them

Hello!
I have 2 orphans in my system:
dbus-sharp dbus-sharp-glib
And I cannot get rid of them. HOW?

Please elaborate. What happens when you try to sudo pacman -Rns dbus-sharp dbus-sharp-glib

I tried to remove them via CachyOS Hello - Remove orphans.
So now they are removed.